Objective Update (4.8.2004)
'It is a popularly held belief that there are two distinct McManus families - both Irish, one emanating from the Maguire's of Fermanagh and the other from the O'Connor's of Roscommon. An objective of this project is to test this hypothesis'
There are two, mutually exclusive, limbs to this objective:
1. Proving the documentary evidence back to Fermanagh and Roscommon (or otherwise), and thereafter
2. Finding a haplotype template for a Fermanagh and Roscommon McManus.
Fermanagh
If some of the Maguire's and McManuses in the Fermanagh group can prove origins back to this place then the DNA part of the evidence fits in splendidly at this early date. But I feel I cannot sit here and speak honestly of authentication of documents when I don't have it. Several McManus' and Maguire's who have been tested are not even recorded in any public DNA database, for apparent privacy reasons (another problem I understand but find hard to come to terms with). There is ample opportunity for any participant to display their haplotype and pedigree chart, with at least some explanation of the evidence that it is genuine, in the excellent YBase public database. Nine Maguire's or derivatives are showing in the YSearch database. Although some claim descent from a man who originated in County Fermanagh, no evidence, even in the form of a mere pedigree chart submitted to the database, is brought to support this, apart from one McManus participant. The mention of a Fermanagh pedigree in the text on the YSearch submission page is made quite often amongst this group. Most, however, appear to provide merely evidence of a most distant known ancestor in the USA in the 1700's. But in most cases, we are not told what that evidence is. Furthermore, a pedigree chart is hardly proof of a line back to a place. All that may be needed is some proof of authentication to a line back to Fermanagh, say just prior to 1700 by one of the close DNA matches. Then I could say with some honesty we have a proven Fermanagh family haplotype. Presently, the evidence is that there is a clear pattern emerging of a DNA McManus family group who merely 'appear' to originate in Fermanagh. What we need, in my opinion, is to produce something more clearly about the origins of this obviously connected group, so that it can be honestly published for all in the world to see. Anything less is doing ourselves an injustice.
The conclusion is, accordingly, that there is plenty of evidence for DNA connections but not much for authenticating documentation. It seems a simple matter to do this. Two of the closest DNA matched participants could submit their documentary evidence of Fermanagh origins to two members of the project having good research abilities. The documents could then be authenticated by research and a report submitted accordingly and shown here. This would be a constructive move, both to promote the value of the project and to achieve its objective.
Roscommon
Like the Fermanagh group, there is a need to show authenticated origins to Roscommon, in particular that area around Kilronan Parish where the McManus/O'Connor's are said to have emanated. There are only three participants at the present moment. Two have some documentary evidence to show family origins in the Kilronan area, however, I am not claiming infallible research here on my part. And I'm certain that many other researchers would have to admit this. But I can't speak for everyone else. So, I must keep an open mind and have a 5% doubt on my documentation certainty. There is no reason not to believe that the two participants, who appear to have a reasonable match, may even turn out to be a separate Ulster family - the haplotypes are so similar between us and the Ulster ones. At the moment it is just too early to say. Efforts are being made to introduce more participants who have Kilronan connections.
To date, there are no known Connaught O'Connor men who have been tested.